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Debate Score:139
Arguments:74
Total Votes:199
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Change Driving Age

Should the legal driving age for Wisconsin be changed?

Yes

Side Score: 42
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No

Side Score: 97
10 points

The driving age should be changed to 18 because...

Claim: The driving age should be 18 instead of 16

•Reason 1- About 830,000 children under 18 die every year, from car accidents

Evidence 1- On the Npr research team Brenda Wilson did research that proved that 830,000 kids under 18 die of car accidents.

Claim: The driving age should be 18 instead of 16

•Reason 1- About 830,000 children under 18 die every year, from car accidents

Evidence 1- On the Npr research team Brenda Wilson did research that proved that 830,000 kids under 18 die of car accidents.

Those are just a few reasons that the driving age should be changed.

Side: Yes
19pbeen(1) Disputed
1 point

This is unavoidable even if we raise the age because it is lack of it that causes accidents.

Side: No
MixedBeat(1) Disputed
1 point

Your argument is very pathos, and children dying is a big deal, all you do is repeat your evidence and provide the same evidence twice in a row.

Side: No
5 points

They should change the driving age to 18 because kids get in less accidents and kids dont die because kids that are 18 are more mature and know to make smart decisions and they know if they dont there will be bad things that happen. If they are older they have experienced alot about driving before they drive that is why i think they should change the driving age to 18

Side: Yes
19cdahlen(4) Disputed
1 point

The maturity gap between the two ages does not change that much. Yes I know the brain isn't fully developed, but 16 year old teens should be able to handle a car with average driving skills.

Side: No
19ptassoul(18) Disputed
1 point

Just because they are older, does not mean they are more experienced. A 16 year-old could make bad decisions as well as an 18 year-old. It is only two years of difference, so not much more maturity is gained and 18 year-olds would not have more experience.http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/1115/88736.0001.001.pdf?sequence=2 This source states that just because kids are older, doesn't mean they are more experienced.

Side: No
3 points

yes driving age should be changed to 18 because it will give kids more time to develop there knowledge about driving and what smarts they need to do to be a great driver and kids would just be moving out of the house to collage and they know they need to make smarter decisions but with changing the driving age the law has to get more strict about driving and the consequences if they arent driving smart so the law should also be involved.

Side: Yes
19glindholm(4) Disputed
1 point

But I disagre because you wont know anything if you don't practice. There for I think the driving age shouldent be rased because they will know more if they practice.

Side: No
19ptassoul(18) Disputed
1 point

If drivers start at the age of 16, they will have more experience driving and be even better when they get to college. Also, if 16 year-olds and 18 year-olds have to make smart decisions, so now the only difference is changing the law, and that is 10x harder to do!!

Side: No
1 point

I agree, 18 year old's will more likely make smarter choices then 16 year old's. And if they are going to be moving out of the house and going to college they will have to start making smarter choices and becoming more responsible.

Side: Yes
2 points

16 year old driver could be dangerous to other people. According to John D'Amico All 50 dtates prohibit 16 year old from drinking alcohol, buying cigarettes, and purchasing handguns. Yet most states are willing to put them in charge of a car, which could potentially be a deadly weapon. 37,000 people were killed on our highways in 2008, more than a hundred people everyday. between 1995 and 2004, there were 30,917 fatalities in accident that involbed 15 to 17 year old drivers, according to a study by a AAA Foundation for Traffics Safety. About a third of those deaths were the teen drivers themselves. The rest pedestrians, passengers, and people in cars that teenage drivers struck

Side: Yes
2 points

16 year old drivers are a danger to themselves

John D'Amico(Illinois State Legislature )- "The answer is raising the driving age. Thats why I introduced legilation to raise the driving age in Illinois from 16 to 18. I realize this idea is controversial, but I could not stand by and watch ome more young person die becasuse he or she was not quite ready to be behind a wheel."

John M. Crisp: Nudging the lagal driving age upwards a bit, that is, in the direction of more maturity, experience, and responsibility, would at least have the practical effect of reducing the number or 16 year olds who are killed each year in auto accident.

Side: Yes
1 point

The driving age should be changed to 18 becasue 16 year olds get into more crashes. According to John M. Crisp 16 year old drivers have more accident per highway mile than any other age group. And according to the center for disease control reported that traffic accident are the leading casue of death for American teenagers, accounting for about a third of all death in that age group.

Side: Yes
19aarmstrong(11) Disputed
1 point

I disagree with you. The only reason why a 16 year old gets into more crashes is because of less experience. Changing the driving age to 18 won't help less crashes. According to www.standard.net sixteen-year-old drivers crash mostly because of inexperience. If the driving age is raised then 18 year olds will also crash because of inexperience. So changing the driving age to 18 won't cause less inexperienced crashes.

Side: No
19kebben(2) Disputed
1 point

I also disagree......according to the source "Should The Driving Age Be Raised To 18?" Studies show that, "raising the driving age will just create inexperience, accident prone, drivers at age 18 instead of 16."

Also according to the source "The Driving Age Should Not Be Raised" "they also seemed to forget that they also started driving at age 16, and they are perfectly fine."

Therefore the driving age should not be raised

Some people also might say teens don't need to drive but I disagree...according to the source " Should The Driving Age Be Rasied To 18?" "Teens need to ability to drive just as much as anyone else-to get to school to get to work and to sports or band practice"

The driving age should not be raised.

Side: Yes
19sgraham(6) Disputed
1 point

I disagree, it should not be changed to 18. From a personal story from Moore, she says that she has been on the road with people who are horrible drivers, but have had tons of experience, and has been on the road with people who just started driving and they are good and even better than some that have driven for awhile. So 16 year olds are not the ones who cause all the problems or are the worst and most dangerous on the road.

Supporting Evidence: Should 16 year olds drive? (www.chicagotribune.com)
Side: No
19ptassoul(18) Disputed
1 point

I disagree with this. Crashing a car does not have to do with age, it has to do with experience. 18 year-olds would not have any more experience than 16 year-olds. This source shows this argument- http://www.yukaichou.com/chou-musings/age-experience-too-young/#.U1eiNnnxbHM

Side: No
19zstiltjes(4) Disputed
1 point

I also disagree, because people judge you by your age before they have ever seen you drive. Some 16 year olds could be way more mature than some 18 year olds. Bad driving behavior can occur in people who are 20 years old. But, that doesn't mean we should ban all 20 year olds from driving. Just like we shouldn't ban driving from 16 year olds.

Side: No
-1 points

i agree because the most crashes are from young drivers. and im not saying i don't trust young drivers i just don't want them to drive while i'm in there car or on the highway

Side: Yes
1 point

If we raise the driving age other people on the road might think that they are safer because they are older and more maturer at the age of 18, kids are usually responsible and are able to handle things like being on the rode with other people.

Side: Yes
1 point

it should be changed because it can save peoples lives and stop deaths

Side: Yes
1 point

i think the driving age should be raised because there are more deaths and driving related injury because of young drivers

Side: Yes
1 point

I believe that the driving age should be raised to 18.

Reason#1 There will be less acidentss and more lives will be saved.

Evidence #1 Between 1995-2004 there were 39,917 fatalities in accidents that involved 15 to 17 year olds.

Side: Yes
-1 points

it should be changed because it can save peoples lives and stop deaths

Side: Yes
19cdahlen(4) Disputed
1 point

Not all teens drive irresponsibly. It's only a few that believe they're in charge and go and do whatever they want.

Side: No
19aarmstrong(11) Disputed
1 point

I disagree with you. Raising the driving age won't save lives. Studies show that it's inexperience, not age that causes accidents. According to the Central Michigan District Health Department raising the driving to 18 instead of 16 will just create inexperienced, accident-prone drivers at age 18 instead of 16.

Side: No
1 point

I agree with you. There are several studies that show that young age doesn't cause accidents, little experience does.

Side: No
-4 points
19glindholm(4) Disputed
0 points

Claim: the driving age should be raised

Reason: practicing driving at an early age is safer

Evidence: it can teach teens responsibility if they drive at an early age because they don't want to scratch it.

Side: No
19cdahlen(4) Disputed
0 points

But how old are these young drivers? I mean really. The maturity gap between ages 16 and 18 isn't really that different. 18 year old teens would be just as likely to crash. It all depends on how long the training program is so that could be changed.

Side: No
19ptassoul(18) Disputed
1 point

You stated a point for either side in this claim. If maturity is what we are concerned about, and it is only two years worth, Why bother changing the law?

Side: Yes
6 points

Raising the age wouldn’t decreased any accidents.

If they raise the driving age studies show that even though its higher it won’t decrease the chances of accidents happening. Thats because any body can get to an accident it doesn’t matter what age you are.

If you raise the age kids that want to go out and have fun with their friends. So then the parents have to bring them and parents get mad about going out late and picking them up from the house.

Side: No
5 points

Don't raise the driving age to an age higher than 16. There will be the same number of crashes of cars at the age of sixteen because even if your older they will still be unexperienced just like kids at age sixteen.

Side: No
4 points

In a country with more than 2.95 million people milling about, we're bound to bump into each other at some point. Sometimes the effects are loud and a bit too devastating, but raising the state's driving age from 16 to 18 is still an idea borne of bureaucracy and not wisdom.

Yes, our youngest happen to do most of the bumping and crunching out on the roadways, but that is still no reason to take away a privilege they have anticipated for years.

As with most things, driving is a skill that has to be learned. It's not a textbook exercise, but one that develops as experience builds. People can be told how to maintain control of their car, but until that roadside hedge nearly becomes a catcher's mit, nothing truly substantive can be learned.

Tough way to learn? Yes, but necessary.

Spurred on by the deaths of two minor-aged males, Illinois State Representative John D'Amico proposed the legislation last December, and said that since then he has received strong support for the move.

Well, that's fine. It still won't pass.

Parents, unsurprisingly, are just as upset as their children about the proposal. In an era where free time is a commodity, parents just don't have the option of driving their children around. Until the state gets a viable mass transit system, that issue won't go away.

Beyond the logistics, becoming a smart driver is wholly experiential, and gaining that experience at a young age would be the same as at 30, never mind 18.

Fine, younger people might be more prone to accelerative impulses than their elders, but they have hormones, give ‘em a break. They apparently can't help it and the stats prove it: "Sixteen year-olds have by far the highest rates of teenage passenger deaths per licensed driver and per mile driven," according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

What can be helped is the system by which high schoolers are made into drivers. Make it harder to get a license and punish more harshly those who drive with abandon.

Not even a decade ago, Illinois law mandated a curfew and no cellphone use policy for teen drivers. Parents also used to sign off on their child's capability as drivers, acknowledging they had spent at least 25 hours on the road with them.

Let's try that again. Those policies allowed children the freedom to gain experience and gave parents ample work-time to help pay off the repair bills.

Side: No
4 points

I believe that the driving age should not be changed. My first reason is that kids deserve to drive at age 16 so then they don't have to ask their parents to give them a ride every day to school.

Side: No
1 point

I agree because people wait fro their whole lives to be able to drive and once people do get the ability to do so, they find it rewarding. It would really torture to not be able to drive and ask your parents for everything especially seeing as many teens have jobs at this point.

Side: No
3 points

claim: The driving age shouldn't be raised

Reason: practicing driving at an early age is good

Evidence 1: if you practice well you will have less of a chance getting into accidents

Side: No
19jhanamann Disputed
1 point

i think your wrong because the most accidents are from young drivers

Side: Yes
19egingras Disputed
4 points

The accidents are only from young drivers because they have less experience than older drivers. Just because some young drivers get into accidents, doesn't mean all of them do. How many sixteen-year-old teens have you met that have gotten into a car accident?

Side: No
1 point

I 100% agree with your thinking. Age doesn't have to do with more crashes, little experience does. If kids start driving at a younger age, they will only have more experience.

Side: No
3 points

The driving age should not be raised because 16 year old teens should be able to manage driving a car. People say that it's because they don't have very good experience. But it doesn't matter because no matter what the age, they could have good experience behind the wheel. An 18 year old would not have any more experience than a 16 year old. And within that gap the maturity level does not change. It's basically at the highest it can get.

Side: No
19mjacob(1) Disputed
1 point

I agree the age should not be raised because then kids at the age of 18 would be driving like 16 year old kids.

Side: No
3 points

At the age 16 their brain isn’t fully developed.

The age doesn’t fully develop until the age 25 so if the age gets to 18-21 I think that it is alright to drive. But 16 is too young because the brain isn’t fully developed.

Once you become 18 people do call you an adult. So I think that the age 18 is a good age for the driving age because they are an adult and can make better choices than 16 years old

Side: No
2 points

Teens should not be able to drive. Because studies show that teens start drinking at 18 and most teens can drive. That would mean that they would be driving after they drink.

Side: No
2 points

claim: The driving age shouldn't be raised

Reason: practicing driving at an early age is good

Evidence 1: if you practice well you will have less of a chance getting into accidents

Side: No

I totally agree. One of my reasons why the driving age should stay 16 is because teens need to have early guidance from parents on how to drive for two years before their on their at college, move out of the house, and are on their own. According to dosomething.org, teen drivers with involved parents are twice as lucky to wear their seat belts. This organization also states that 56% of teenagers rely on their parents to learn how to drive. So if they raise the driving age to 18 their would be no time for their parents to help guide them on how to drive well as well as do the right thing on the when their on the road in two years.

Side: No
2 points

If the kids that don't have a drivers licence then who will bring them there. When you have plans with your friends and you don't have your drivers license its hard to get places if you parents are busy. And depending on the time of season it is, it's harder to walk or bike there if it is in the middle of winter because of the snow. And then it's harder to be with your friends if you don't have your drivers licence.

Side: No

I agree with you. 16 year olds need to have the ability to drive just as much as adults do. Teenagers need to be able to get to school, to get to work, to get to sport practices, to get to band practice, and even to go out with friends. It will just make it harder for the parents to drive their children around everywhere they need to go. Cars are necessary for mobility in this country, taking that away is a large disruption of teens for no good reason.

Side: No
2 points

At the age 16 their brain isn’t fully developed.

The age doesn’t fully develop until the age 25 so if the age gets to 18-21 I think that it is alright to drive. But 16 is too young because the brain isn’t fully developed.

Once you become 18 people do call you an adult. So I think that the age 18 is a good age for the driving age because they are an adult and can make better choices than 16 years old

Side: No
2 points

The driving age should not be raised because if it is raised, parents will have to drive their 16 year old(s) everywhere, and they don't have time to do that. A lot of teens drive themselves places like school, work, and friend's houses, also just places to have fun. If you need to drive yourself to school in winter, but you aren't allowed to get your license until you're 18, and there is no bus by your house, it isn't a very good idea to bike. You also wouldn't be able to drive to work, and since many 16 year olds work in fast food restaurants now, if they change the driving age, those 16 year olds won't be able to get jobs as easily, affecting those restaurants.

Side: No
1 point

I agree with the fact that 16 year-olds need to be able to rely on themselves for transportation. Kids are going to need jobs, get to school, and if they have younger siblings parents have to worry about them too. Also, if the driving age is raised to 18, kids are more likely to be off to college. If the age stays at 16, kids will have two years of experience before they go to college, because their parents won't be able to help them at college.

Side: No
19tmalsavage(4) Disputed
1 point

Well if the parents had the time to drive there kids places when they were younger why does it have to change when they turn a certain age. What i'm trying to say is how did the kids get to school when they were younger? There parents might have brought them, they may have took the bus and they may have walked or biked to school so once again why does everything have to change when they turn a certain age?

Side: Yes
1 point

As kids get older they get more practice on their own.

Evidence shows when kids get older they learn more on their own from seeing their parents drive and kids learn tons of stuff from drivers ed. If the driving age got older I think that they would have to change a lot of things up which could take away from the focus of driving.

Just because people think that as kids get older they get more responsible. Well thats not true because it doesn’t matter the age of a person it matters how responsible they are.

Side: No
1 point

At the age 16 their brain isn’t fully developed.

The age doesn’t fully develop until the age 25 so if the age gets to 18-21 I think that it is alright to drive. But 16 is too young because the brain isn’t fully developed.

Once you become 18 people do call you an adult. So I think that the age 18 is a good age for the driving age because they are an adult and can make better choices than 16 years old

Side: No
1 point

Who is going to drive them to events?

A.J. Rox: The majority of parents hace to take their kids to other activities: they don't have time to chauffer their kids around. (16-17 year olds)

Side: No
1 point

The is no BIG reason to change the driving age

Alex Koroknay- Palicz: cars are necessary for mobility in thsi country. Taking that away is a large disrupution to the lives of teenagers for no good reason.

A.J. Rox: Raising the driving age is not only a bad idea, it does absolutely nothing to help except for delay death for only a short period of time. It will casue more problems than it will help

Side: No
1 point

I believe the driving age should not be raised. Many car accidents are caused because of inexperience, and driving at age 18 wouldn't make a difference of the number of inexperienced drivers on the road. Raising the driving age will not stop people from dying, it just delays the time they die.

Side: No
1 point

I agree with Zoey because that is so true. The fact is from "A.J. Rox, Driving age should not be raised," being a 16 teen year old inexperienced with driving is that same as being a 18 year old. Just because you start later in age doesn't mean you are more experienced. They are all starting a new thing. Like stated before, raising the driving age will not stop people from dying with inexperienced drivers, it just delays the time they die from crashes.

Supporting Evidence: Driving age should not be raised (www.standard.net)
Side: No
1 point

The driving age should stay 16 and not be raised to 18.

There are many reasons why, 18 year olds are not any safer than a 16 year old, Teens need to be able to drive, Raising the age will not save lives, Some people are better than others at driving, and it isn't good having to drive at such a older age.

Side: No
1 point

I agree with Samara because your brain has barely developed more at age 18, than 16. Your brain is not fully developed until age 20. Therefore, if kids start driving at he 16 it is no different than driving at age 18. Also, studies show that adults start drinking at age 18. Which means more dangerous drunk drivers on the road.

Side: No

I agree with Zoey. Changing the driving age to 18 will not cause less accidents and there will be more drunk, inexperienced drivers on the road. According to www.standard.net they said that studies show that most adults start drinking heavily at age 18 or so. That means more drunk driving which would equal a ton more homicides/suicides. Also, if they are 18 year olds and are drunk driving and they have very little experience on the roads that will cause even more problems and more crashes.

Side: No
1 point

On the first page, it states that the main cause of crashes is inexperience, not brain development. Although brain development of your brain may be part of it, most of it is from lack of knowledge. I believe we can fix this problem by having stricter restrictions on who gets a drivers license, and have the driving tests be longer and contain more information and harder to pass.

Side: No
1 point

I agree with Paul. Off that reason I would add that from the article, "Driving age should not be raised" by A.J Rox, it even says that the brain is not fully developed until your early 20's.

Which means 16 year olds and 18 year olds are at the same risk based on their brain development. Also going off about the brain, 18 year olds are not the smartest about drinking. Many start drinking at age 18 says the article, so if teens are starting to drink at the same time they are starting to drive, I think we all no that would not good good! There would probably be even more accidents, and that's what we are trying to prevent.

Supporting Evidence: Driving age should not be raised (www.standard.net)
Side: No

The driving age should not be change to 18 and should stay at the age of 16 for many reasons. Raising the driving age won't save lives from accidents, teens have the ability to drive just as much as anyone else, and teens need to have guidance from parents on how to drive well for 2 years before they move out of the house and are on their own with no help.

Side: No
1 point

I also think that the driving age should not be raised because teenagers need to be able to drive themselves places. If kids cannot drive themselves to dates, dances, and other events, their parents will have to. Most parents do not have a lot of extra time to be able to run kids around town whenever they need it.

Side: No
1 point

I again agree with Zoey. That is so true because it is not good having to drive at such a older age. From the article, "Driving age should not be raised," A.J Rox confirms that 16 year olds will be getting jobs rarely because they will not be able to drive themselves there. 16 year olds need to be able to drive. Like I said so they can get to jobs, and like Zoey already said, they need to be able to get to dances, dates, and events that adults can't take them to. Also starting at an older age will get in your way of school, because you will be just learning how to drive when you are starting collage, which I think teens need to know how to drive by then, and be used to it. And you should think about that too.

Supporting Evidence: Driving age should not be raised (www.standard.net)
Side: No
1 point

I think that the driving age should NOT be changed.

(1.) No matter the age they start they will all have the same Experience.

- Its not the age they start at it is that when you first start you will be experienced. It isn't like 18 year old teens wont have the experience as a 16 year old.

-If you start them off at 18 they will be as dumb as 16 year old drivers. You cant raise the age and think that the 18 year olds will have the experience if they haven't drove at all!

Side: No
1 point

I DO NOT think the driving age should be raised! Raising the driving age won't change anything. From the source, "Should The Driving Age Be Raised To 18? they state, "Studies show that it is inexperience, not age that causes accidents." They also state, "Raising the driving age will just create inexperienced, accident-prone drivers at age 18 instead of 16."

Side: No
1 point

Supporting my reason that teens need to be able to drive and raising the age won't save lives comes from Alex Koroknay Palicz from National Youth Rights Association. (NYRA)

They say and I agree that people judge younger teens for accidents before some of them even have the chance to drive. And that is not fair! And 18 year olds are still accident-prone, and inexperienced. They shouldn't banned 16 year olds for deaths if they don't ban men from the roads. The NYRA (National Youth Rights Association), says that more men kill someone driving compared to women, so if men are a reason for accidents, only woman should drive. But that never took place so they shouldn't judge the teens.

Supporting Evidence: Should the driving age be raised to 18? (teacher.scholastic.com)
Side: No
1 point

I believe that the driving age should not be raised to the age of 18 because kids are more likely to drink and drive, in many cases, kids are no longer living with their parents for help and support, and kids are getting closer to college, so the more experience they get driving before college, the better they will be when they get there. Lastly, the source http://www.yukaichou.com/chou-musings/age-experience-too-young/#.U1eiNnnxbHM clearly states that young drivers are not worse than older drivers, better drivers are experienced.

Side: No
1 point

The driving age should not be raised.

One reason I think the age should not be raised is because, The experience not the age causes the accident. Another reason is Convenience, and my last reason is kids need the ability just as much as adults.

Side: No
1 point

Rachel's

I believe that the driving age should not it be changed.

Just because teenagers are young doesn't mean they are bad drivers. Some one who is just as could be just as bad as someone young and it has nothing to do with the age of the driver.

Raising the driving age will punish the responsible young drivers on the road. If they raise the driving age it will punish the teen drivers that are very responsible on the road and don't deserve to get a privilege taken away from them.

Teens need the ability just as much as any one else any other age. Teens need to be able to get out and take their solves places so parents get a break and if they don't have a ride they can take themselves.

Side: No
-1 points

i think they should not raise it because the kids that they are teaching could have an easier way to get around rather than biking to the grocery store then come back with donuts for breakfast. They could also save their money up to pay for gas.

Side: No